The speaker, possibly a political figure or journalist, engages in a lengthy discussion with Dmitry Gordon, a representative from Kiev. The speaker criticizes the current state of affairs in Ukraine, particularly its lagging rhetoric in relation to Russia and the ongoing conflict. The speaker also expresses frustration with the lack of action from the Russian leadership, particularly Vladimir Putin, to resolve the situation.
The speaker suggests that if Russia doesn't leave Ukraine, it will be isolated from the West, which could lead to the end of Russia's space power. The speaker also comments on the state of democracy in Ukraine, contrasting it with Russia where the leader is always known in advance. The speaker acknowledges the struggle of democracy in Ukraine but emphasizes the need for a reasonable conversation among political actors.
Finally, the speaker expresses their conviction that a conversation will inevitably happen, but it must be on equal terms and about Russia leaving Ukraine's territory. The speaker concludes the discussion by expressing their opinion that Putin is a criminal and calls Gordon a popular epic.
1. The speaker is discussing the situation between Ukraine and Russia, particularly the election rhetoric and the situation in Crimea and Donbass.
2. The speaker suggests that the key to the world is in the Kremlin and is held by a person named Putin.
3. The speaker discusses the suffering and death caused by Russian troops in Crimea and Donbass, mentioning a figure of over 10,000 people.
4. The speaker mentions a speech by one of the leaders of the Russian space program, who reportedly said that due to sanctions, there are not enough spare parts or equipment for successes in space as before.
5. The speaker suggests that Ukraine is technologically behind and that without interaction with the West, Russia will end.
6. The speaker discusses the democratic process in Ukraine, mentioning that unlike in Russia, it is not known who will be president two months before the elections.
7. The speaker mentions a number of potential presidential candidates, including Zelinsky, Tymoshenko, Poroshenko, Gritsenko, and others.
8. The speaker mentions that there will be a conversation with the LPR DPR with Moscow or with anyone for a conversation.
9. The speaker suggests that the majority of candidates will go to the conversation, and that a conversation must be had.
10. The speaker mentions that Putin's candidate is impossible in principle, but a number of people have already stated that they are ready to talk with Putin.
11. The speaker suggests that this conversation will inevitably happen, but it must be on an equal footing and it should be about Russia getting out of the territory of Ukraine.
12. The speaker mentions that the Ukrainian Minister of Internal Affairs is such a person, and asks if this makes the speaker feel awkward.
13. The speaker suggests that it is unacceptable to speak such words to any leader of the country.
14. The speaker calls Putin a criminal.